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Women who like "masculine" things are mocked and jeered at, accused of not being "real" fans and of being "attention whores" (or, sometimes, just "whores").

Men who like "feminine" things are given a documentary praising them for their "progressive" views and feel such a large amount of self-importance that they claim they're "oppressed" by women who are (often rightfully) scared of them.

I've never seen a more misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, and violent fandom than the one grown men have created around a show about multicoloured horses. There have been several times when I've been sexually harassed by self-professed bronies (all of them were over the age of eighteen when I am clearly a minor), who then have the nerve to say that people (especially young women) are being "sexist" for fearing them or for feeling uncomfortable because of their presence.

I'm all for breaking down gender roles, but bronies are definitely not doing that properly (if at all). Bronies: you are not oppressed. You are not progressive. You're assholes. You're -- as the title says -- entitled pricks.

(Also, not every MLP fan is a brony, and yes, I know that not all bronies are like that.)
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puppyhowler Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015  Hobbyist
i often times wish the rabid bronies could be called something different other then "brony", that way the sane bronies won't feel so uncomfortable being associated with the crazies 
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HoneyTediz Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
bronies: you only hate us because we like mlp!

mlp collectors and fans that have literally been here since the beginning of the franchise: Simba eww 
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Speedyblupi Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014
We're not opressed, but we are unfairly hated on the internet.

But yes, many of us are entitled pricks.
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tilemaxosbra Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm a brony myself and the only reason I came here is to read the comments.

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TheDictatorOfPokemon Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Student General Artist
Well, they do turn powerful beings (like Celestia.) into sex toys.
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AndyofIndiana Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Hobbyist
Are you sure about all of this?  I have been taught that it is generally okay for women to take an interest in men's stuff, but men would get ostracized for liking anything remotely feminine.  This is likely because we have been taught that masculine activities are somehow seen as more important than feminine actives.  Personally, I think all men should learn to cook and clean at least some.  That is one of the reasons I enjoy Friendship is Magic, neither the tomboys nor the girly girls are treated as superior (although I will admit, making Twilight Sparkle a princess has made the balance much more precarious).
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EctoHive Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2014  Hobbyist
hell yeah
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loudmouthedandbossy Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
MLP, Homestuck, Vocaloid and Kingdom Hearts are pretty rabid fanbases xD I think it's anything with several main characters, or stereotyped personalities so that they're easy to imitate in fanfiction or fanart.
People who would rather be anyone but themselves can become so obnoxious when given the opportunity to be someone else, you know?
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Glucoseguts Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There are lots of good bronies and shit imo, and the show is good. But as a whole they're fucking pricks. 
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FaolanEternal Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If you say that not all bronies are like that then why make a stamp with such a generalization?
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DariusAbend Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Homophobia, misogyny, and especially cissexism are apparent in all fandoms, and most definitely not 'most commonly' in guys who like girly shows.
Also, male femininity is most definitely not more accepted than masculinity in females- in any way shape or form. I've been harassed and assaulted many times for being read as feminine or wearing pink/feminine attire while going into men's restrooms/most public areas. My sister and female friends have seldom been bothered for wearing suits, ties and other traditionally masculine clothes. I can tell you for a fact that I'm treated far nicer when mistaken for a female, too. I'm also a minor, and I've still been harassed far more by macho men that are into transformers. TLDR; you'd find that there are an equal amount of assholes in every group if you've been around enough people. Stop beating dead horses, please.
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loudmouthedandbossy Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Your experience =/= the majority.  Down here women are treated like shit, no matter how they present, and men are worshipped for being men and it's disgusting.
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DariusAbend Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Oh crumbs. I didn't check your profile. My apologies for insinuating that you were a guy, ma'am.
I do have to end this discussion, though. I don't feel like it'll go anywhere and I don't like talking to people who deem themselves 'pro-satan'.
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DariusAbend Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Your experience =/= the majority.
 I've lived in so many places, all of them I've had the exact same experiences.

I've never seen a man worshiped* for having a penis, only for being intersex (which is the smallest minority alive) in native american culture, and women were included in that. Where did you come up with that, anyway; tumblr? While some women are treated like crap for being women, it's definitely not remotely common in any 1st world country, and most of the time they can fully-well go for help or help each other. Which they don't, because people are petty and selfish. Men are treated like absolute garbage for being feminine
And if you're talking about pay-grade, go talk to someone else. I don't care. My mom had to work like a dog to take care of us, (payed shit and treated like shit by some dicks) and she never got any respect or help from her female co-workers. Just back-stabbing and hate.

My older-than-me girlfriend is treated like a goddess (In a good way.), knowing that she can live happily doing whatever she wants even if it's being lazy and playing video-games all day while I work. She's elated knowing that I'll be able to support her and have tons left over for charity, a private library, or whatever else she and I want to spend it on. My he/she/it sibling basically worships women and treats me like shit for being born as a guy. Everyone I've ever met has always said women>guys. The only person excluded from that is a teacher I once had and she was self-hating and abusive to me for being a weak little boy, anyway.

The only time you 'hear' otherwise (because obviously you can believe everything you hear through biased & faked media) is in 3rd world countries or arab/jewish/redneck/rural chinese (inb4 RAYSUST. I'm guessing you're 100% white. I'm not. Grats.) places.
I'm not even going to start on how much I've been told I can't cry, have feelings or be sick as a 'man', even though I haven't even hit legal age yet. I have tons of terminal/incurable illnesses that severely impact my quality of life. Cry *me* a river.

Every guy I know, including myself is expected to graduate college *~and~* finish med/law school before 23-25, and the women are always talking happily about how they'll stay home and take care of the kids. (Which is fun and not at all hard work, I can tell you that as a fact.)
I'm not even going to begin on the gender roles slapped on when you come out with a shlong. Anyway, jizz off, I'm not up for hostility from my last birthday.

You didn't try to give me a discussion in reply to my own. Not even a few opinions. Just 'no ur wrong'. If you're going to put up the know it all act, then please at least have the decency to TRY and not talk down to me like I'm a psychotic arsewipe on the severe end of the autism spectrum.
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Rainbow-Productions Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Professional Writer
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You made an arguement and then blocked me? Lol

I AM a guy, actually.  A trans guy, that can pass well enough in public.  And you know what I've seen?  I've seen people start taking me seriously since I came out.  I've seen people listen to my opinion without validation from a man.  The gender roles a man has are given to him, and upheld by the majority of men.

Your girlfriend is not a goddess, she is a woman.  And I'm glad that she's happy doing what she's doing, but after years of seeing women told to be silent, told to 'give him another chance' and 'he loves you, he's sorry' after being beaten, a lot of women aren't happy.  And they're expected to stay unhappy.

You cannot, as a guy born and raised a guy, tell me that women aren't oppressed because you never lived as one.
And staying home and taking care of kids?  Fun? Not hard work?  I RAISED my younger sisters, and I still am.  Don't give me that shit, it is a lot of fucking work.  It is constant, even during naptimes.  It is cleaning every room of the house, picking up after toddlers and chasing them down, making sure you do everything that needs to be done, keeping the kids safe, usually it involves cooking as well several times throughout the day.
It involves people judging you based on how well you've raised the kids, and whether or not you've had kids.  If you haven't, why?  Because women are EXPECTED to have kids and become housewives. It isn't something we are actually interested in from the start; it's something bashed into our heads from the start. Every TV show, every movie, every book; there's the faithful housewife and those are our role models.
Those were my role models, but now that I'm a guy?  The housework I do is no longer expected of me.  Raising kids is no longer expected of me.  I'm expected to get a job, and work my way up, not stay holed-up in a shithouse with a bunch of kids.

Some people might want kids, but a lot of people just assume that it's the next step.  That it's what comes after marriage, and it's not.  It shouldn't be, it should be a choice.  It's not a choice when we're brainwashed to believe that is our place.

You know why you can't cry?  Because it's a feminine thing to do.  because anything feminine is bad, is lesser, is wrong.  Women can cry, sure, but only if it's over something men find silly.  Only if it's not too much.
They can't show anger, either, or it's only PMS.  Hormones.  It's 'that time fo the month again', all the nearly-adults in my classroom laughed, as I broke down from their ruining my sketchbook, after a long, abusive and ridiculously manipulative relationship ended.  "My sketchbooks are my diaries, they're really important to me." I explained, and they laughed again.
"Stop being such a girl."
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"Stop being such a girl."
Why?  Why is being a girl a bad thing? Because it's the opposite of 'man'.  Because men are on top, they are literally worshipped for being men.  They get away with things because 'boys will be boys'.  They get away with stalking, because 'boys will be boys', and don't hear 'what a crazy bitch' after confusion of a one-night-stand gone wrong.
They rape and beat and kill women, and get significantly less time than women do for DEFENDING THEMSELVES against their spouses, because "She provoked it", "She should've done better/shouldn't have done that".

www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-w… <60 fucking years for a warning shot, against her abusive husband.

And yet Zimmerman, a MAN, stalked a black boy down the street and shot him and gets protected and set free with the same laws that woman was denied.

And this isn't a new thing, this is something that happens every damn day.  This is something that women have been subjected to forever, and something feminists are trying to stop now.

" it's definitely not remotely common in any 1st world country, and most of the time they can fully-well go for help or help each other."
Hell to the yes it is.  You wouldn't know, however, because you've never felt it.  Never experienced it, so obviously, it doesn't exist.
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And, um, excuse me?  Satanists don't believe in Satan.  Or god, or hell, or heaven.  That has nothing to do with anything.
" If you're going to put up the know it all act, then please at least have the decency to TRY and not talk down to me like I'm a psychotic arsewipe on the severe end of the autism spectrum."  People with autism are usually pretty open minded, actually, and they're not psychotic even when it's severe?  What the hell?
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commando5017 Featured By Owner May 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
um... about the satanist part, 'Satanist' means someone who worships or likes Satan.
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Rainbow-Productions Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014  Professional Writer
Yes, I know, I'm a Satanist.
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tilemaxosbra Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
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Myredhulk Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
You are such a fucking idiot. I do not even have time to tell you how much of an idiot you are. I will come back later.
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pastelii Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're just proving their point by making a raged comment.
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DariusAbend Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
By acting angry and cursing so much you're just making them seem correct.
OP is stupid, anyway; male feminism is FAR less tolerated than female masculinity in current society.
Don't give idiots attention, please.
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DariusAbend Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
femininity* Tiredasfuck
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Chrismilesprower Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Quick question what's a prick? 
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loudmouthedandbossy Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It means penis, essentially.
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Chrismilesprower Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Oh okay. Thanks for telling me.
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hotdawg12 Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, except for hypocrites. Look at yourself and what you're talking about before you post, really people.
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MingotheMerciless Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013
THANK YOU.
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ForIncognitoUse Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2013
It seems that whenever people commenr on MLP hate stuff they start with "Well i'm a Brony and blah blah blah"
To those people: YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT, NOBODY GIVES A FUCK.
CAPSINLEIKABAWSS
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cartoonking1 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013
As a brony I am so sorry if you have been offended by a fellow brony, I want you to know we are not all like that.
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gastlies Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013
did you not read the description or what
i mean thank you for not being a jerk but ????
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cartoonking1 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013
I know ^^; but this is more of a general apology in case you came across a irate brony. :)
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PandaSennin Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2013  Student Filmographer
You actually got sexually harassed by some bronies? That's wrong but sadly nothing new in fandom. Anyway good stamp plus you get extra point for pointing out that not all bronies are like that (can't stand those myself either). Bronies aren't creating some sort of revolution. At most it's a decent step towards males like girl stuff but that's it man.
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CosmicMuffin Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013   General Artist
I agree that the focus on men in the fandom is over the top, but I also think that it's weird that anyone cares whether a person likes things "meant for the opposite gender." When I became a brony it really did seem to be a bustling and accepting community. Yet as things have gone by, I have become annoyed with all the complaining. I believe that these whiners are just an outspoken minority, and have never met a brony in person who acts this way. We're nothing more than another fandom, we just have a few load-mouth morons in our midst who take the show too seriously
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gastlies Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013
I know that not all "bronies" are like that, but the thing is there's a lot more to the MLP fandom than entitled manchildren who think they're doing something really revolutionary (aka the aforementioned bronies).

Also, this "outspoken minority" got a ridiculous documentary, so there's that.
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CosmicMuffin Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013   General Artist
There is no revolution. What there is is a crazy output of fan-work, good and bad. As for the documentary, I've seen it. Yes it's biased, yes plenty of things said are groan-worthy. That being said, other parts were good. They highlighted the parts of the fandom that are actually really cool. Do bronies deserve a documentary more than other fandoms? No, of course not. But one was made. I'm not a trekkie/trekker, but I watched the documentary made about that fandom. I find fandom in general intriguing, and would watch any documentary highlighting one.
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Capricornicis Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I see both men and women who go around saying they like what the other gender does as entitled pricks. They are no better than five olds then, because everyone at five didn't give a fuck and were dicks.

But the point of the stamp is far beyond accurate...They act as if no guy ever liked Power Puff Girls.
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ziggystarbucks Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
yes good
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CastoroChiaro Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Could not have said it better myself. Well put.
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The-Syreth-Clan Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Problem here is the people's attitude towards genders and gender norms.
At women it looks like a scale between the boy and girl side so no matter how tomboyish they are, the society never questions their... "womenity" (couldn't find better word sorry)... openly(!). (Unfortunately the society judges the women by her looks not her actions.)
At men it rather looks like two seperate points, and if you're out of that point, well, you're basically have to find a crampoon and explain why that thing can be an excuse or else you'll be considered weak, girly, gay, etc.etc.

So when a group of people who are men and break out of these points, and instead of looking for some crampoon or excuse to force it back to said point they just basically give the finger to the entire system and don't give a shit people will consider it as a strange and brave and/or stupid idea.
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gastlies Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
I wouldn't say society doesn't question a woman's femininity. There are situations where men feel women have "invaded their space" (see: video games, comic books) and as a result feel the need to degrade women by implying they're not "true" fans or that they're doing it for male attention. I myself have had a lot of homophobic and transphobic slurs thrown at me just because I enjoy some things that are traditionally (or, I guess, typically viewed as) "masculine". Women aren't free from gender roles, either.

If men feel the need to excuse things to avoid being called "girly, gay, etc.", then we need to take a step back and ask ourselves why it is seen as bad to be girly and why it is seen as bad to be gay. (The answer is of course because femininity is "bad" and non-heterosexuality is viewed as an extension of that in men (see: stereotypes regarding homosexual men).)

My main issue is that bronies are typically the sort to mock women for liking "masculine" things -- they're typically misogynistic, racist, transphobic, homophobic, and so on -- and then they have the nerve to step up, do the same thing, and cry about being "oppressed" as males who have forced their way into a fandom and, in the end, scared women from that same fandom. There's nothing progressive in a fandom that fetishises rape and whose fans often cry "why is (insert character here) black?" at humanised versions of the characters.
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The-Syreth-Clan Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I need to agree with you there at the video games part. I personally had seen no mocking or any similar towards females so far, other than being called tomboyish and making fun of their small chest. My few experiences were that some girls at my school loved to play football, but instead being called lesbian-transvestites the other girls didn't care, and the guys found it strange but awesome.

About the excuses, I for one never wanted to explain why do I hang out with girls back in primary school or like My Little Pony when I'm 18 or anything, because... why? If anyone asked me "why?" I told them "why not?". Also, that's the reason I decided to join the androgynous, I was fed up with the stupid questions, to be honest, I'm fed up with how this works too.

My experiences about the community are that I've have never seen it being so homophobic/transphobic/etc... (except the racist part), but rather the "everyone is equal" (except the cloppers, because they have to be destroyed since they ruin our oh-so-precious image, see?) system. In my view it's another extremely large, active and creative fandom that tends to freak out at the smallest things and probably more ignitable then everything else ever but again it's my own experience.
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gastlies Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013
I guess you've seen the good part, then. My experience with bronies (the self-professed ones; I'm not speaking of the whole fandom) is shit I've seen on Tumblr -- rape fetish blogs and the like. I'm actually quite fond of MLP, but I'm not associating myself with the fandom under any circumstances.
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The-Syreth-Clan Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Mostly the good part, yes.
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DERPmaster9 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
"Men who like "feminine" things are given a documentary praising them for their 'progressive' views"

I don't think that's entirely true. Many people still mock and bash men who like feminine things, especially MLP. In fact, from what I've seen, most people still do not support it. Most bronies get a lot of shit for enjoying MLP, often being called gay, childish, stupid, etc. I don't think I've met anybody, other than bronies, who support bronies.

And honestly, I have not once seen a woman be mocked or accused of being an attention whore because she likes something masculine...
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gastlies Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
I've never seen people call bronies "gay". And bronies themselves appear to be, a lot of the time, incredibly homophobic. That's the issue I'm trying to get at -- if they want to be "progressive" or to have any respect at all they need to stop with the misogyny, transphobia, etc. Until then, I personally won't take them seriously.

What about girls who like comics? The "anti-fake gamer girl" movement is based around women being mocked for liking something stereotypically masculine. Women who cosplay comic book characters are also looked down upon and accused of doing it only for the attention of men, especially if those women are attractive.
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DERPmaster9 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
Huh. I suppose I'll take your word for it, even though, out of all the bronies I've met, I've never met a misogynist or transphobic brony, and only met one homophobic brony(and that was only because of his religion)...

Fair enough. But even that is becoming more widely accepted; certainly more so than grown men watching a TV show for little girls.
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Zero-Janitor Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
While everything you say is true, using "brony" as a negative term I fear will only cause them to abandon the term while not actually abandoning the behavior, and then they're indistinguishable from the civil human beings until they strike.
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gastlies Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
That's true. Though I find that many of them prefer whining to people who do use it negatively instead of finding another term to use for themselves.
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fromlatviawithlove Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Pretty much.
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Bajingzang Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
a+
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